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“Why Do You Hate Jews?”, is a question (or slur) I’ve heard, many times, since I decided to learn & pass on the truth of Palestine, particularly Gaza. I am often accused of hating Jews (or jews; cultural jews.) Yet, I don’t hate them. I cannot say I hate anyone I don’t know. And there are plenty of people, including Jews, whom I investigate and when I see their actions, for myself, I despise these acts. But, even then, I don’t hate the person. Hating others is a waste of my energy. Rather than stew in that sort of emotion, I prefer to debate them, and often, question their words.
Here are a few comments from Youtube, in response to my original comment on a video by Abby Martin, Summer of 2014:
“Here is the truth;
IDF conscripts live in homes ALL OVER Israel. Because of this, each of these homes would be considered, “military targets”, containining, “human shields”, if anyone other than IDF lives in these homes.
But, Palestine has NO military. Because of this, there are no human-shields in Gaza.
And, Israel IS a war-criminal. For backing them in every manner, possible, Obama is also a war-criminal (and NOT my president) and needs to be impeached
This is how I felt, then, and it is my opinion, today.
Here is some of what I received, in return:
(from, “starxxx1991)
That’s the most insane thing I heard in a while! (and) Muslims got to catch up with the 21 century and stop being so barbaric. Lying and comparing collateral damage of Israeli defense missions to barbaric Islamic terror won’t work much long. Westerners are way too civilized to be fooled so long, so much.
Only the insane and weak minded believe the Muslim propaganda that compates (sic) their terror to collateral damage victims of defense missions

And, as the conversation went on, along came, “ssllaa” which may certainly be the same person;
You’re obviously know how it is to live in both sides (in israel and in gaza), otherwise I can’t see why you would speak up for people you don’t know.
While I agree with you that israel is really a hell like place, I want to ask you a simple question.
What would you do if your neighbors would launch missiles at your home?

When blocked (by others, not by me), the person changed his or her name to, “Adi Sincha”, and said, “I’m a girl by the way. I disagree with you. In war there is death. When Muslims will love there people and the rest of the world we will all be in peace. Assad killed over 100k people of his ”

& in popped the usual Zidiot: TheThinking(?)Minds: ”
Child of ignorance, the truth is that you do NOT know the truth, if you knew it, you would be for the truth!!!
Just for starters, how can you be against Obama, when he is and avid supporters of the Muslim world, being himself one of them. That’s a statement of contradiction, typical of a life of contradiction.
In case your mothers never told you; Israel territory is slightly over 4000 sq. miles, representing 1/8 of 1 percent of the rest of the middle east. With a population of only 5.5 million people vs. a 300 million of Muslim-Arab population.
Besides that; child of ignorance, have you considered who’s behind Israel???
No other than the God of Israel..
By your words you’ll be justified, and by your words you will be condemned!!!
Consider….”
Two years on, along comes, “Elyboy Manlapaz”: ”
hahahah very funny bullshit comments hahaha”IDF CONSCRIPTS LIVE IN HOMES ALL OVER ISAREL” hahaha what the hell and how about the children and elders and women live in their house??not all houses has the miltay personnel but in gaza almost houses has a terrosist living in their…palestine has no military but they have many terrosrist hahhhaa i was just read the most bullshit and funny comments hahahaha ill keep on laughing hahaha”

And, another of the most obvious trolls in youtube, “Bobby McBong” (I kid you not.)
“oh no the racist conspiracy granny and holocaust denier just questioned my brainpower :D
that really touches me”
I would rather not copy and paste his more disgusting comments…

My question to all of these fools is this: Why do YOU hate Jews and/or jews?

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Yesterday, I went up to the grocery story, and in the fruits & nuts section of, “bulk aisles”, a funny little man caught my eye. The conversation started with my asking him if he saw walnuts anywhere. He stepped aside as he pointed to one broken bin and another nearly-empty bin, which contained less than an ounce of walnut pieces, so I was out of luck. I mentioned that the pre-packaged walnuts were priced at 6.99 for seven ounces and was shocked that Central Market was charging a dollar, per ounce, for walnuts. That’s $16.00 per pound! I thought this would be the last of the conversation; no such luck.

The man then asked of me, “Say, do you go to church regularly” I responded, “No, I don’t believe in any god or gods. But, thank you.” And, that’s what I get..; I should not have added that note of appreciation, for he took it as an invitation to continue this conversation. Great. I told him I really didn’t wish to hurt his feelings, but I’ve been there and I’ve tried to believe what he thinks is true. Before he got too far into how I will end up burning in hell, I asked which church he attends. Funny; he said he goes to different churches but mostly reads the bible. So why was he asking me if I went to church? Did he want a reference? Was he starting his own church and looking for followers? Hmm?

The man said, “but there are very nice people at church…”, to which I replied, “yes, and this is the main reason I attended a Christian university and why I honestly did try to believe in that god thing. Ultimately, however, I could not.” Then he said, “Well, I used to do bad things. When I was at U.T., I was in a fraternity, and I drank and did the worst things, but I have now become a good person, and this is because of church.” Why do church-goers assume that atheists are bad people who do wrong? I explained that I’ve never been a bad person. I’ve always tried to do right by others and, when I can, to do for others. I’ve raised two children into adulthood and they are wonderfully giving people who have much compassion for others. In my life, I’ve rarely behaved badly and certainly not intentionally done so; why would I need to go to church? I have people in my life who also do good things for others and am not particularly looking for a new group. If, and it is the case, I do not believe in a god, why on earth would I go to church? Why would I wish to live a life contrary to my own beliefs? Do I really wish to live a lie?

Stumped, the man began to go down the Israel path. He mentioned how terrible Islam and Muslims are. Well, he picked on the wrong atheist to try and have a go at, this time, especially in regard to Muslims or Islam. Rather than tell him everything he knows and believes is a lie, I questioned why he would think such things. I asked, “Do you know that Muslims praise Jesus?”, and, “Do you know what Jews teach in their Talmud about Jesus? Did you know they say he is, ‘boiling in hot excrement for an eternity’, in hell?” No, he said, he had never heard such a thing. I asked him to investigate this statement. The man said he didn’t know that Muslims write, “P.B.U.H.”, after mentioning Christ. Did he know what this means? I let him know what this means; “peace be upon him.”

Then I asked him what he thinks of the occupation of Palestine. I asked if he thought it was right that our government and our Christian churches fund the occupation and genocide of Palestinians, who happen to be the rightful owners of this land. He did know this and he said, “I think anyone who participates in genocide of any people should be wiped out!” I laughed. Murdering those who commit genocide would be genocide, too. Heck, I only want, “Israel”, dismantled and the people to either accept Palestine as their homeland or for them to move elsewhere. He wants them dead.
So, who needs to go to church? What good is religion doing him?

Thankfully, the man said he reads and adheres to the King James version of the bible, only, but when he attends church, he gets his head filled with the lie of Israel. I hope he learned something from our conversation. But, I have to wonder if he will again approach others while shopping. Something tells me he may be more cautious, but in a way, I hope he continues in his quest for truth.

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Palestine Solidarity.
Really?
If you’ve read my recent post regarding the problems we ran across with the Palestine Solidarity Committee in Houston and Austin, Texas, you may believe Gilad Atzmon is an extremist and PSC has every right and reason to, “disavow Atzmon.” But, is any of what PSC says against Atzmon valid? Does Gilad hold extremist (and, as they say, racist) views? In fact, does it make any sense that those who claim solidarity with the people of Palestine, would go up against Atzmon? Forget that nobody I’ve heard from, or read words by, has bothered to read anything Atzmon has written. Ignore the fact that their words against GA are based in absolute conjecture and rumor. In fact, let’s forget about their fight against Gilad and, instead, look into their purported struggle against Israel.
How does one fight/struggle against the Jewish state and balk at discussing Jews? Changing the word, Jew, to, Zionist, doesn’t fool anyone except for PSC-members. PSC should not be so dishonest as to use the words interchangably. Besides, doing this can too easily be explained away, as does the PSC, that half of all Jews are not Zionists. Again, I say, really? You see, I used to believe that tired line: “Every Zionist may be a Jew, but not every Jew is a Zionist.” I used to spout this line, myself! As I have grown to understand a lot more about Zionism and Jewishness and particularly about the Jewish state, I can finally state, if one stands with the state of Israel, or refuses to stand against Israel, he or she is a Zionist. Refusing to speak the truth of the Jewish-state of Israel should give everyone a clue; said person is a Zionist, or would at least be a zionist-sympathizer! The only Jews I can view as anti-zionists are those who refuse, on moral grounds, to live in Israel while calling for the complete destruction of Israel in favor of the rebuilding of Palestine. Anything less and said Jews and PSC-membership are Zionists. Perhaps this is a more comfortable position taken by the newly un-brainwashed, but it is a dishonest stance.
Why would I call the newly changed PSC, Zionist or, at least, pro-Israeli? Well, just look at who’s front-and-center in their groups. Are these groups run by Palestinians? Yes, in part. However, their chairs are not open only to Palestinians. No; they are now filled by Western Jews. Is this not a bit suspicious? Like America’s Congressmen, who are ever and always on the side of Israel, is the questionable allegiance of the PSC Jews not to be questioned? Would the group, Jewish Voice for Peace, select non-Jews to run their show? I think not. Yet Palestine Solidarity groups are led and co-sponsored by Jews. Does this make any sense? I did think this was a problem specific to Texas. I thought only Texas’ PSC was confused. However, as Gilad Atzmon tours America and finds the only black-listing he encounters comes from the PSC, I am seeing that the PSC has been infiltrated and changed by the Jews. And, yes, it makes me sad. For I thought we had a good thing going. I thought the PSC would possibly have a chance to help Palestine. Heck, I thought they wanted to help Palestine! I thought I could join with them and we could finally do something positive. Now, when I consider who’s running the show, I see this will never happen, at least not from this group. And this would mean it is time for a new group or, minimally, a new leader, to take hold and actually get back to the original intention set out for PSC. Perhaps you think Gilad Atzmon is this leader? I’ll ask, but don’t think he wants the job.
One thing I absolutely know is this: Ali Abuminah is not the correct person for this important endeavor. Abuminah has allowed the new PSC members and chairs to re-mould him into a puppet for the Jewish-state of Israel. This is certainly not what Palestine needs! Palestinians already have this man in Palestinian-Authority’s Mahmoud Abbas, the jailer of Gaza. The Palestine Diaspora does not need a new Abbas. For, as Israel enjoys the unelected Abbas at the helm of Palestine politics, the Jewish state does also enjoy having Abuminah at the head of PSC. Why? Neither gets anything positive accomplished for any part of Palestine. How does anyone not see this for the problem it is?
Color me frustrated.

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Former Israeli, former IDF, former Jew, Gilad Atzmon starts his USA tour this week, in Houston and then comes to Austin!!  Because we’ve had problems (in Austin, of all places?) with the self-appointed Central Texas arm of the ADL (and the freak, Craig Berlin, says, JDL) who’s attempted to close-down one of Gilad’s shows, we are providing information about LOCATION on an individual basis.  I know it seems a bit nutty, but the Austin, “music scene”, is run by some unattractive characters who happen to also run the bipartisan-mafia, in Austin, and all over the USA.

If you would like to come hear Gilad speak and play jazz(!!), send a private email (here or in twitter) or contact:

LaBonteTrevor@gmail.com

As talented a musician as Trevor Labonte is, he’s essentially lost his ability to earn a living via his chosen profession, in Austin.  Who’s created his problem for Trevor?  It is the same (usual;  Berlin, aka, Protape) despicable excuse for a human as that’s harassed Gilad, as well as me, and anyone who points out the truth of Israel and Palestine and, “free speech”, in the USA!  I think it is extremely important that we, minimally, fight back by going to hear musicians and speakers we care about.  Do not allow these Israel-firsters and dual-citizens (anywhere in the USA) to tell us who can or cannot play music or make speeches, here!    We must also take a long look at the farce of our Palestine -Solidarity Committee, who seem to only do what the israel-first group allows.

No wonder Palestine gets nowhere when this terrible group of subverters is who they’ve got, “on their side”,  For me, it has been a huge let-down to see the truth of those supposed to be working for Gazans and for all Palestinians.  I wrote to the, “Interfaith Council”, who say they are on the side of Palestine, to ask them about hosting Gilad’s tour date in Austin.  This is what I received, in return:

Anne,
 
Gilad Atzmon has been disavowed by the Palestine Rights movement for his racism and anti-semitism.  I’ve attached a copy of Ali Abunimah’s article on him.
 
What group are you with that invited him? Who is “we”? 
 
Bernice Hecker, ICPR coordinator
Now, Gilad Atzmon is far from being a hater, of anyone, but the ICPR doesn’t seem to comprehend that they are using the exact same ploys AND words as the ADL!  What good is this group to the people of Palestine?  I find them imposssible and worse than our irritating ADL manipulators.  Someone needs to speak to them, and if they had open minds, I know Gilad Atzmon could explain the problems of allowing the wrong people to lead the group.
And I hope to see MANY of you, in Austin, Thursday night!